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Title: Dog Dirt
Post by: alan@marple on February 01, 2009, 10:28:26 PM

I reckon that Marple good win a prize at being the Dog Pooh winner of the North West. Everywhere I seem to go there is Pooh.

Church St/Chadwick St-watch out!  there's bound to be a dump there

Market St- tread carefully

Lockside- Keep off the grass

Canal Bank, make sure you have your "wellies" on

Notice how many people walk in front of there dogs !
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Tricky on February 01, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
This is the link to report it to the Council, via an online form..

https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/dogfouling/dogfouling.aspx (https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/dogfouling/dogfouling.aspx)


or contact via

Dog Warden Service

Environmental Health & Trading Standards
Stopford House Piccadilly Stockport SK1 3XE
Tel. No. 0161 474 4207
Fax. 0161 474 4369
Email. community@stockport.gov.uk
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Lisa Oldham on February 12, 2009, 12:13:21 PM
hope they work nights!!  i often see people walking their dogs round the streets in marple once its pitch dark..
Title: Dog Dirt
Post by: alan@marple on February 02, 2011, 01:02:00 AM
I am sick to death of selfish dog owners who are not exercising their responsibilities by allowing their animals to defecate with impunity.

Walking along Empress Ave this evening, by the cottage surgery, I was fortunate is spotting a "dump" right in my path on the pavement.

I am sick of seeing dog owners walking nonchalantly in front of the dogs not being aware if the animals is "pooing or not"

I suggest the fine be increased to £1000 and that folk who report offenders, be rewarded with £200 upon conviction

Marple must be the dog poo capital of Stockport
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: marveld on February 02, 2011, 01:48:43 AM
I regularly jog round Marple Dale, but recently there has been a noticeable increase in poop along the river path. (not on the edge of the path, but in the middle  >:( )

Seeing litter disappoints me. Walking down the Middlewood Way the other day I observed a ~15 year old lad drop a crisp packet and then a whisper bar wrapper. At the newsagents near the Marple Tavern I then eye-balled another lad chucking his cigarette wrapper on the floor. Walking up Stockport Road there was a half-eaten takeaway in the polystyrene food container on the dentists wall. (Aswell as plenty of litter on the ground). Finally, at Memorial Park, when I spotted my 3rd litter drop in action I asked the ~12 year old if he could kindly take it home with him. Being young, he complied to my polite request, but whether his snack wrapper made it home is anyone's guess!

I'm pleased Marple has 'John' with his wheelbarrow and our resident council street cleaner. I hope he doesn't lose his job with the cut-backs; he does a grand job.
 
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Neil Smith on February 03, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
And the responsible dog owners that do pick up the mess you find only do it as there are people about, I had a walk around Lyme park at the weekend and could not believe the amount of little bags of treasure left on the ground probably due to people being around when the log has been dropped then the bag dumped when they have passed  the nice dog owner  >:(
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Dave on February 03, 2011, 03:34:01 PM
Dog poo on pavements is one thing, but Lyme Park!! Do you expect the sheep poo and deer poo to be picked up for you as well?
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: marveld on February 03, 2011, 06:09:44 PM
Dave, I'm with Neil on this. If you dog poops in the woods off the beaten track, then fair enough. However, if you've taken the trouble to scoop the poop, why sling your plastic bag when you get bored of carrying it?
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Rachael on February 03, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
 dogs with owners are domesticated animals, totaly different to sheep and deer pooping all over the place .  Dog owners have a responsibility to clean up after their dogs, if they are not responsible enough, they shouldnt have a dog ( in my opinion )

Im with Alan @ Marple, its a disgrace the amount of muck on the pavements , and down the middlewood way, half the time its just used as a toilet area for dogs .

The Rugby pitch which is supposed to be private is another area , its not fair on the people using it , getting splattered in mud is one thing playing rugby, but getting splattered in doggy doo is just not nice .

Up the fines , and actually make a point of dog wardens being seen  might make a difference .
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: nbt on February 03, 2011, 06:16:08 PM
Dave, I'm with Neil on this. If you dog poops in the woods off the beaten track, then fair enough. However, if you've taken the trouble to scoop the poop, why sling your plastic bag when you get bored of carrying it?

AGreed, if you pick it up, take the bag home. however if your dog poops on a  path in the woods, doesn't mean you can leave it. Off the path (and a fair way off the path at that, not just by the side), fair enough, but more and more people seem to believe that if you can't get a car there it's a dog toilet. Bring back the dog licence and make it expensive  :-\
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Miss Marple on February 03, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
Horses have a licence to !**! in the street !!  think I will invest in more Roses  ;)
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Rachael on February 03, 2011, 06:39:33 PM
Horses have a licence to !**! in the street !!  think I will invest in more Roses  ;)

Is that really true ?

Well, I never knew that .

Horse poop doesnt bother me, its mainly grass, but dog dirt makes me feel pysically sick :(
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Neil Smith on February 03, 2011, 08:00:11 PM
Dog poo on pavements is one thing, but Lyme Park!! Do you expect the sheep poo and deer poo to be picked up for you as well?

Dave to the best of my knowledge deer and sheep poo does not carry the disease toxocariasis but dogs do.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Rudolph Hucker on February 03, 2011, 08:29:43 PM
It's not just dogs that carry toxocariasis, cats carry a variant to, but few people get on their soap box about domestic cats doing their business in other peoples gardens. It would be nice if they bagged it up and took it home but I guess as cats they think it's beneath them. Just remember to wash your hands after gardening, particularly if you don't wear gloves. Arguably far more chance of innocently picking up toxocariasis in your garden than from dog poo (which is far from innocent :)

RH
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Rachael on February 03, 2011, 10:26:12 PM
I bought an ultra sound cat detector detterant for my garden as cats were fouling my new front lawn :(  and one for the back garden where it is graveled ( huge litter tray  )  I think they are about £30 in garden centres, but exact same one was £14.00  at amazon.co.uk for exact same one including postage

Its definately worked  ,  not had any more problems since I put it in ... it drives my children mad as they can hear it, but adults can't , but it does have an off switch if we are sat in the garden .

But I had a call from my neighbour, someone had put an anonymous note through the door complaining about their  cat spraying and smelling their house out as it likes to wonder inside  ... Im just glad its not my house , tom cat spray whiffs :(
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: alan@marple on February 04, 2011, 09:42:48 AM
Well, I was looking through my window into next doors garden and I saw a cat dig a hole, have a poo, and then cover it up!
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Dave on February 04, 2011, 10:04:03 AM
I had a walk around Lyme park at the weekend and could not believe the amount of little bags of treasure left on the ground

I agree with you, Neil, about the problem of dog owners picking up the mess and then just leaving it on the ground in a plastic bag, as if someone else is supposed to come along and take it away for them   ::)

As far as Lyme Park is concerned, this is the National Trust's guidance to dog owners on the subject, which seems very sensible to me: 

Never leave poo where people walk, play or picnic. We ask that if your dog fouls, particularly in car parks and on paths, you pick up and remove the mess. Flick it into rough grass or woodland, or take it away with you and dispose of it at home. There may be dedicated bins to put it in at heavily used sites.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: heather on February 04, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
i have 2 dogs and pick it up every single time and then put it in the next bin i come too my dogs have the faces of bambi but the back ends of a donkey dont tie all dogowners together  some of us do care.................
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: alan@marple on February 05, 2011, 11:13:35 AM
Heather,

Is not those who care that I am alluding to, there was no suggestion or implication about considerate dog owners!
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Neil Smith on February 05, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
Heather,

Is not those who care that I am alluding to, there was no suggestion or implication about considerate dog owners!

Alan, I was just thinking the same, nobody has ever but "all" dog owners........but as the old saying goes "if the cap fits" etc etc
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: heather on February 05, 2011, 08:34:16 PM
thanks i know all dog owners don't pick it up and believe me it really  annoys me as well if you are going to have a dog be responsible
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Osdog on February 13, 2011, 01:21:47 PM
Lyme does have a policy of you NOT picking up dog poo, (apart from the car park areas) - they don't supply litter bins, and regularly say that in the woods, or fields it will quickly decompose.

They do encourage you to remove it from the footpaths, (a quick flick with a stick usually does the job) - they are not overly happy about people who collect the poo in bags, and then abandon the bag.

I was walking along the canal bank some little time ago, and came across about 10 bags of poo nicely stacked in the hedgerow.  To be honest, it would have been better to leave the poo to rot  - the bags may be biodegradeable, but it'll take years for them to vanish. The poo will be gone in a few days... hey ho !
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: myloweb on February 13, 2011, 09:52:03 PM
Etherow Park. Walk up the woods and it is full of bags left by " responsible " dog owners
 
People littering anywhere.

Solution :- 6 Months ( Saturdays and Sundays) community service clearing litter and dog poo

Outcome :- Cleaner streets and woodland, more "Responsible" dog owners and litter louts.

Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Neil Smith on February 14, 2011, 04:40:32 PM
Etherow Park. Walk up the woods and it is full of bags left by " responsible " dog owners
 
People littering anywhere.

Solution :- 6 Months ( Saturdays and Sundays) community service clearing litter and dog poo

Outcome :- Cleaner streets and woodland, more "Responsible" dog owners and litter louts.



 ;D
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: bluebelly on February 15, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
could not agree more.this could be the start of the big society
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Miss Concerned on February 24, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
When I went to collect my supply of 'poo bags' from the library last saturday I was told that the council are no longer supplying them. How many dog owners will be prepared or maybe  can even afford to buy their own bags. I hope that the council will still provide bins for the responsible owners to deposit their dogs'deposits' in. I also wonder whether open spaces like the Memorial Park and Brabyns will be adversly affected. Not a pleasant thought.

Another point to make regarding bags left at the side of paths - I do a return route with my dog and often leave the bag to collect on the way back rather than carry it around the full walk with me. It could be that some of these bags that have been seen are just waiting to be collected on the way back. In any event, the bags are biodegradeable and at least contain the offensive deposit rather than irresponsible individuals allowing their dogs to foul our lovely woodland walks.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Dave on February 24, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
Miss concerned, you may go back to pick up your fragrant plastic bag, but sadly some people don't. I usually wait a day or two before I reluctantly pick up someone else's little bag and take it home :-(

And although some plastic bags are biodegradable, they take years to decay, whereas dog poo disappears in a few weeks, or less, depending on the weather.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: chicken lady on February 25, 2011, 06:46:13 AM
When I went to collect my supply of 'poo bags' from the library last saturday I was told that the council are no longer supplying them. How many dog owners will be prepared or maybe  can even afford to buy their own bags. I hope that the council will still provide bins for the responsible owners to deposit their dogs'deposits' in. I also wonder whether open spaces like the Memorial Park and Brabyns will be adversly affected. Not a pleasant thought.

Another point to make regarding bags left at the side of paths - I do a return route with my dog and often leave the bag to collect on the way back rather than carry it around the full walk with me. It could be that some of these bags that have been seen are just waiting to be collected on the way back. In any event, the bags are biodegradeable and at least contain the offensive deposit rather than irresponsible individuals allowing their dogs to foul our lovely woodland walks.


Bearing in mind the dire financial state of the council, I'm not sure they should be providing dog poo bags , to be honest I had no idea that they were provided free and have always bought my own. They are very cheap to buy, Sainsburys basics (other supermarkets are available) nappy sacks are around £1 for 100 bags.

While we are on the subject of dog dirt, please may I ask parents of small children to clear up after them as I do my dog, yesterday a dirty nappy was left open on the middlewood way, and last week one was left on a bench in the Memorial Park. Just as revolting and anti-social as dog dirt I think.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: alan@marple on February 26, 2011, 11:12:18 PM
The difference being that the dog knows no different
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Duke Fame on February 27, 2011, 10:59:25 AM
i have 2 dogs and pick it up every single time and then put it in the next bin i come too my dogs have the faces of bambi but the back ends of a donkey dont tie all dogowners together  some of us do care.................

I had our bins emptied recently and decided to give them a clean as they started to smell. Having allowed the bin to air, imagine my horror to find someone had disposed of bag of freshly laid cable in my bin. I do think dog owners should put their bags of warm fudge in their own waste food hopper using the correct biodegradable green bag.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Barbara on February 28, 2011, 07:53:02 AM
And then can somebody educate the local badgers/foxes who deposit on the pavements round here?   :(
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2011, 08:58:47 AM
And isn't it time horses were made to wear nappies?   :D
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Tricky on March 06, 2011, 11:06:59 AM
Alan you have done this exact thread before..

http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=2433.msg8657;topicseen#msg8657 (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=2433.msg8657;topicseen#msg8657)


and the link AGAIN to report via the web.. https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/dogfouling/dogfouling.aspx


or contact via

Dog Warden Service

Environmental Health & Trading Standards
Stopford House Piccadilly Stockport SK1 3XE
Tel. No. 0161 474 4207
Fax. 0161 474 4369
Email. community@stockport.gov.uk
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: admin on March 06, 2011, 11:48:12 AM
Ah! and now the topics are merged  ::)

One of the unfortunate downsides of the campaign to pick up dog dirt in public places (which I fully support) has been the over-zealous posting of "Clean-up after your Dog" stickers in Memorial Park. There are now two on every lampost and most other stationary objects.

I understand that it is a member of the public doing this and not the Dog Warden. If anyone does know who it is I'd like to have words with them about the ones on our park noticeboards. We will be replacing the board near to the main entrance in the near future and I would like to ensure that the new one is not subject to sticker attack in the same way as the existing ones!    
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Duke Fame on March 08, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
Ah! and now the topics are merged  ::)

One of the unfortunate downsides of the campaign to pick up dog dirt in public places (which I fully support) has been the over-zealous posting of "Clean-up after your Dog" stickers in Memorial Park. There are now two on every lampost and most other stationary objects.

I understand that it is a member of the public doing this and not the Dog Warden. If anyone does know who it is I'd like to have words with them about the ones on our park noticeboards. We will be replacing the board near to the main entrance in the near future and I would like to ensure that the new one is not subject to sticker attack in the same way as the existing ones!    

In fairness, If someone has taken it upon themselves to help keep the area mess free, I say well done. It's big society stuff keeping the area clean for all.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: admin on March 08, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
In fairness, If someone has taken it upon themselves to help keep the area mess free, I say well done. It's big society stuff keeping the area clean for all.

Agree that in principle it is commendable that someone wishes to keep the park poo-free. However, the amount of stickers that have been placed in the park recently (and particularly those stuck on our noticeboards - not in but on) are excessive and amount to graffiti. I don't see that this over-zealous use is giving any benefit over and above what a slightly more subtle approach would achieve. It certainly isn't achieving the objective as the park remains full of poo. There seem to be two types of dog owners, those who pick up and those who don't. The latter do not seem to be greatly influenced by signs, no matter how many there are. What we need is them to be caught and fined.
Title: Re: Dog Dirt
Post by: Osdog on March 16, 2011, 11:32:32 AM
How many dog owners will be prepared or maybe  can even afford to buy their own bags.


If they can afford to run a dog - they can afford the bags !  Just had a £800 bill from the vet !!!!!