Post by: 2002standardmat on November 08, 2003, 08:02:06 PM
the obligatory keying of cars;
wing mirrors being knocked off;
youths running over cars/throwing bricks at them;
the usual fruit/veg being thrown at windows;
bricks being thrown through double galzed windows of elderly residents;
fighting in the street;
youths threatening to assault/rob anyone who confromnts them;
and now a couple of muggings!
The problem lies in a combination of drunkedn youths and a foot path to the end of the street which is used as access to an estate at the rear..
Despite reproting incidents to the police, local councillors and the MP, nothing has ever been done to stop the problem for good - only a bit of night monitoring by the police which never came to anything.
Aa an experienced local authority environmental health offcier, I am aware of where the line of anti social behaviour ends and criminal behaviour begins and this is getting beyond a joke.
After a couple of weekends of more mindless violence I am now looking into the possiblity of trying to get the walk through closed. I guess it will never become a reality, but I will not be happy unitl it has at least been tried.
I would be interested into anybodies thoughts/experinces in dealing with such issues in the Marple area.
Sorry if this seems like a bit of a rant,but we are all getting towards our wits end and I can only feel that nothing will ever be done to sort it all out.
Post by: on November 09, 2003, 01:19:06 PM
Just where is all this happening?
Post by: alastair on November 09, 2003, 01:37:56 PM
This is an outrage that needs to be sorted. Am as always disapointed in the police for not helping here and for the council for not listening to the public!
Hope something happens to ease the situation
Post by: 2002standardmat on November 09, 2003, 05:24:44 PM
Got an email reply off one of the area councillors this morning and I intend to speak to a few colleagues in highways tomorrow to test the water about the closure of the path.
Hopefully the Local Authority path may bear some fruit - after all, I try my damned hardest for everyone who calls me at work, like to think others would do the same.
Looked into the closure thing a lot and it would seem that it can be difficult if it is used in a lawful manner for the majority of the time - can but try.
The police just seem completely uninterested - I remeber growing up in Marple as a child and always taking the mickey out of them for drinking cups of teas in peoples houses all night - bit different when you need their help!
The officer I spoke to at Marple on Saturday acknowledged that there are 'problem areas' of Marple - if this is the case, then why the hell don't they do something about it.
Great websaite and nice to spend some time on a forum not related to guitars (what I usually do). Hopefully it wil grow more and more and be a great resource for the community.
Post by: johnhoughton on November 13, 2003, 02:48:37 PM
I am always conscious of the fact that youth is complained about regularly, but when they look for assistance and an element of funding is required nobody wants to know, a young Marple lad aged 11 has the opportunity to box in Canada in April 2004 and is trying to raise his airfare through donations but nobody wants to know, when they want to do right, they get no response, but do something wrong everybody is out in force.
Surely we should be encouraging them and not constantly knocking them.
Maybe somebody will do something positive for those who have an ambition.
Post by: Deniseamb on November 14, 2003, 10:33:54 AM
Post by: Lisa Oldham on November 14, 2003, 01:40:35 PM
theres was nothing to do at all so we hung around on street corners and walked around the streets alot...
We never caused serious mishief or did any damage to anyones property..
obviously there is and always has been a problem with INTERESTING things for kids to do in Marple BUT thats not all of it.. its the attitude and lack of any respect for anyone or anything that needs to be addressesd as well
Post by: alison on November 15, 2003, 09:22:13 PM
Anyway, I agree with what you are saying - we did hang around (mainly outside the old coop) but from what i remember we were taught right from wrong by our parents and were scared of things getting back to them as we knew if they did we would be in Big Trouble.
Maybe the sense of community has broken down, or maybe some parents are taking less responsibility for the actions, and discipline, of their children. I don't know the answer unfortunately, I wish I did
Alison
Post by: 2002standardmat on November 17, 2003, 08:34:30 PM
An opportunity to discuss issuses with the police and hopefully come up with some practical, workable and realistic ways forward.
I'll keep an eye on the forum and see if there is anything I can take forward from here.
"its the attitude and lack of any respect for anyone or anything that needs to be addressesd as well" - could not agree more. Not isolated to Marple though, more of a national problem - ASBOs say it all!
Post by: Aaron on February 09, 2004, 03:40:06 PM
On a trip to Germany a few years ago, I saw how basketball courts or fenced-off football pitches were built behind blocks of flats, how there was a hockey pitch open all hours on the north side of town, and credible cycle routes by which to get there. These were not new facilities; the flats and their basketball courts were built in the seventies. Yet what can youths do in the evening in Marple these days? Nothing. It's the same story as with the railways in this country, decades of underinvestment have led to the major problem we have today.
It's a shame that we have to ask the question "can the police help?". Something should have been done long ago to stop this problem from escalating.
Post by: on February 15, 2004, 09:44:12 PM
Criminal damage, assault, harassment, drugs = WRONG
being accountable for your actions, good behaviour = RIGHT
This is not rocket science
Post by: alan@marple on February 25, 2004, 08:53:20 AM
Perhaps residents might like to support the Marple community council by attending the meeting this week
Here's a  direct link to the MCC site http://www.marpleccexec.org.uk/
Admin
Post by: Aaron on February 28, 2004, 11:28:48 AM
Post by: on March 03, 2004, 02:46:18 PM
Post by: on April 28, 2004, 03:10:19 PM
1) Why are they smashed?
2) Why do we insist on having them made from materials that are easily smashed!
3) Can we stop this?
Post by: on July 03, 2004, 02:28:16 PM
Post by: alan@marple on July 04, 2004, 11:16:22 AM
I wish our elected representatives, who do so much for us, I Â read , would take a walk on a Friday and Saturday night and give these kids the benefit of there advice.
Perhaps then we can read how they have succeeded in making our town center peaceful and pleasant to walk through, during the long daylight evenings