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Archive => Archived Boards => Local Issues => Topic started by: amazon on March 01, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
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Speaking to one of the managers at the coop today I just happend to mention the car park was busy he did say what people are now doing now there are no pay and display meters is parking some all day rather than go to Chadwick street .so they are bringing in .the number plate recognition system like they have ar some Alldis and BandQ were your car no it's taken you are allowed so long retaken when you leave if you go over your fined
Normally you have two hours but I suppose it can be reduced .
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It can't come too soon - parking in the Co-op is now a real problem at times because of those anti-social folk who leave cars there all day. >:(
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I hope you are right, Amazon. I don't often take the car there, but it is getting dangerous to walk through at times with people hunting for spaces. And a lot of people doshop there - so it can't be doing the trading situation much good.
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It can't come too soon - parking in the Co-op is now a real problem at times because of those anti-social folk who leave cars there all day. >:(
Why are they anti-social? maybe they are visiting friends and organising social get-togethers on the park. Compared to non-communicating suprmarket shoppers thy are very social.
The answer is to make all car-parks free to use. I must admit, I never pay anyway
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Why are they anti-social?
I should have thought it was pretty obvious, even to you, Duke. ::) The Co-op car park is provided by the Co-op for people shopping at the Co-op. That's why it's called the Co-op car park. Since the ticket machines stopped working, some people, such as (to name names) the owner of Snobby Dogs Poodle Parlour, leave their cars there all day This sometimes means that people doing their shopping can't park there. So they have to park somewhere else, and that means struggling with their trolleys or bags to wherever they have had to park, and then taking the trolley back.
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Fines issues on private land at not enforceable anyway - just don't pay it unless they take you to court and you lose.
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I hope you are right, Amazon. I don't often take the car there, but it is getting dangerous to walk through at times with people hunting for spaces. And a lot of people doshop there - so it can't be doing the trading situation much good.
i am only telling you what I've been told .
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Fines issues on private land at not enforceable anyway - just don't pay it unless they take you to court and you lose.
they are if you have permission from the landowner .
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It can't come too soon - parking in the Co-op is now a real problem at times because of those anti-social folk who leave cars there all day. >:(
Why are they anti-social? maybe they are visiting friends and organising social get-togethers on the park. Compared to non-communicating suprmarket shoppers thy are very social.
The answer is to make all car-parks free to use. I must admit, I never pay anyway
Of coarse duke just bang a few hundred on the community charge to pay for it .
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Fines issues on private land at not enforceable anyway - just don't pay it unless they take you to court and you lose.
they are if you have permission from the landowner .
It boils down to breach of contract - ends up being more costly to fight than its worth - never bought a ticket in the co-op... Never will.
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It can't come too soon - parking in the Co-op is now a real problem at times because of those anti-social folk who leave cars there all day. >:(
Why are they anti-social? maybe they are visiting friends and organising social get-togethers on the park. Compared to non-communicating suprmarket shoppers thy are very social.
The answer is to make all car-parks free to use. I must admit, I never pay anyway
Of coarse duke just bang a few hundred on the community charge to pay for it .
Or join the real world and improve efficiency so that tax payers can park to shop in some shops that pay enormous business rats to the wasting council.
I don't see it as costing the council any money, it the car park was free, we could sack the traffic wardens saving ££££££££££££££££, the car park charges being removed will put more money in the pocket of the Marple folk and therefore more money to spend locally that given the acceslorator effect, more money throughout Marple's economy
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So your happy to steal from me and other CT payers I see Duke. Money that should be used for local service you steal.
Nice meet you David. So typical of you.
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So your happy to steal from me and other CT payers I see Duke. Money that should be used for local service you steal.
Nice meet you David. So typical of you.
Yes, I see it as an entitlement for my council tax. If I get a ticket, I buy a ticket off another motorist and appeal. I give another taxpayer the money and thereby bettering the community.
By parking for free, I shop locally and put money into the economy. + I pay your benefits
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Why do you feel the need to keep making this crack about benefits? Do you not realise how odious you sound?
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the car park charges being removed will put more money in the pocket of the Marple folk and therefore more money to spend locally that given the acceslorator effect, more money throughout Marple's economy
No, that's exactly what doesn't happen if you remove car parking charges, as illustrated by the people who at peak times are now driving round the Co-op car park and driving out again when they can't find a space. They then go to another supermarket (I've done it myself more than once). So they are actually moving money out of Marple's economy.
Parking restrictions such as time limits and charges are a vital way of keeping all-day parkers away from shop car parks, and out of roadside parking in shopping areas, so that they are available to the shoppers who keep local businesses going.
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Fines issues on private land at not enforceable anyway - just don't pay it unless they take you to court and you lose.
they are if you have permission from the landowner .
It boils down to breach of contract - ends up being more costly to fight than its worth - never bought a ticket in the co-op... Never will.
Shall we just say then they are doing it as a deterrent .to stop people parking .because the majority of people won't know what you've said will they .unless you stand there telling them .
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the car park charges being removed will put more money in the pocket of the Marple folk and therefore more money to spend locally that given the acceslorator effect, more money throughout Marple's economy
No, that's exactly what doesn't happen if you remove car parking charges, as illustrated by the people who at peak times are now driving round the Co-op car park and driving out again when they can't find a space. They then go to another supermarket (I've done it myself more than once). So they are actually moving money out of Marple's economy.
Parking restrictions such as time limits and charges are a vital way of keeping all-day parkers away from shop car parks, and out of roadside parking in shopping areas, so that they are available to the shoppers who keep local businesses going.
Good post .Dave but there are certain people in protest groups that don't want people to shop in marple anyway .they would prefer them to go out of town to other supermarkets .
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'Parking restrictions such as time limits and charges are a vital way of keeping all-day parkers away from shop car parks, and out of roadside parking in shopping areas, so that they are available to the shoppers who keep local businesses going.'
Hear, hear Dave!!
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the car park charges being removed will put more money in the pocket of the Marple folk and therefore more money to spend locally that given the acceslorator effect, more money throughout Marple's economy
No, that's exactly what doesn't happen if you remove car parking charges, as illustrated by the people who at peak times are now driving round the Co-op car park and driving out again when they can't find a space. They then go to another supermarket (I've done it myself more than once). So they are actually moving money out of Marple's economy.
Parking restrictions such as time limits and charges are a vital way of keeping all-day parkers away from shop car parks, and out of roadside parking in shopping areas, so that they are available to the shoppers who keep local businesses going.
Is the co-op car park there for the co-op or for the park as well? Incidently, the car-park on the other side of the fire station is always empty even when the follow my leader cars are playing musical chairs in the co-op.
If all the car parks were free, the long-stayers would be scattered around all the car parks.
As it happens, I think the solution is free short-stay car park.
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The idea that any car park should be free is just nonesense. Land as a rental value and the land owner bit it the LA or a private landowner has a right to a fair return on their asset. There is no evidence whatsoever than free parking generates extra business in fact there is evidence to the reverse that it drives people away.
How many of those driving round and round the co-op live less than a mile away?
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How many of those driving round and round the co-op live less than a mile away?
A supermarket shop often weighs more than you can carry easily in a cycle basket!
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There is no evidence whatsoever than free parking generates extra business in fact there is evidence to the reverse that it drives people away.
And that evidence is.........?
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There is no evidence whatsoever than free parking generates extra business in fact there is evidence to the reverse that it drives people away.
And that evidence is.........?
I'm with you Dave. Even given some evidence, I'm aware that retailers in manchester are extremely angry about the imposition of parking fees on a Sunday in Manchester, apparantly they should be pleased. The Trafford centre could improve footfall by charging for parking? I can't see that as likely.
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The idea that any car park should be free is just nonesense. Land as a rental value and the land owner bit it the LA or a private landowner has a right to a fair return on their asset. There is no evidence whatsoever than free parking generates extra business in fact there is evidence to the reverse that it drives people away.
How many of those driving round and round the co-op live less than a mile away?
You are right Wheels but the Local Authority has to accept the purpose of providing car parks. They take a lot of money from businesses in the form of rates, it's highly likely that hte majority of those businesses' customers will use a car to shop. As a service to the retailers, they need to provide afforable parking or reduce the business rates. If those car parks are not fully used, it's apparant that the charges are too high.
I'd like to see your evidence, I'd not be surprised if the cost of enforcement and machinery for charging for parking exceeds the revenue and the lost trade.
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I think the romper van has been in the car park more than two hours.
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presume thier doing a big shop...waiting for some items to be deliverd
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I think the romper van has been in the car park more than two hours.
And there posters are nailed to quite a few telegraph post lower fold area who do you contact re having them removed .
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I think the romper van has been in the car park more than two hours.
Still there today .
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I think the romper van has been in the car park more than two hours.
And there posters are nailed to quite a few telegraph post lower fold area who do you contact re having them removed .
http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/biggreenborough/cleanstreets/flyposting (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/biggreenborough/cleanstreets/flyposting)
or to be more specific..
https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/flyposting/flyposting.aspx (https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/flyposting/flyposting.aspx)
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I think the romper van has been in the car park more than two hours.
And there posters are nailed to quite a few telegraph post lower fold area who do you contact re having them removed .
http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/biggreenborough/cleanstreets/flyposting (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/biggreenborough/cleanstreets/flyposting)
or to be more specific..
https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/flyposting/flyposting.aspx (https://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/flyposting/flyposting.aspx)
Thanks for that reported and sent .
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Copy the event sponsors into the email....
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sorry I know this one has been done to death, but I was in the coop car park today and all the parking meters were off. It was really obvious that the car park was full of long stay people, and those who were just popping into Marple for a few bits and bobs would have struggled to find a space, I did, this was about 9:50 and it was packed but not much tooing and froing to cars. I don't know if this is a permanent change, but I don't think its brilliant for people who want to shop in Marple, at least with a small payment and a time limit there is a turnover of cars and it encourages people into the town for shopping.
Speaking of which, Toymaster is a right treasure trove isn't it! Solved my birthday present woes for a 7 and a 10 year old in 10 mins flat!
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Re the car park - it can be a nightmare, with cars queuing out onto Hollins Lane to get in there! Something really ought to be done to sort it out; it hardly attracts genuine shoppers into Marple! But it doesn't seem to be the Co-op's responsibility, so does anyone out there know what the situation really is? >:(
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I've spoken with the manager about this, and also someone I know who works at Co-op head office. The ticket machines have been broken for ages, and the current chaotic situation has been going on for many months. Apparently the responsibility for organising all Co-op car parks is managed centrally by the Co-op, who use a company called Excel Parking (I think) for all their car parks. Branch managers have no involvement and no power to deal with problems. The manager of the Marple store has reported the matter many times but nothing has been done. Meanwhile, he knows they are losing business. No wonder the Co-op's in a mess.......... ::)
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And there posters are nailed to quite a few telegraph post lower fold area who do you contact re having them removed .
Why would you want them removed? Contact the organisers after the event but give them a chance to publisise a great event.
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I've spoken with the manager about this, and also someone I know who works at Co-op head office. The ticket machines have been broken for ages, and the current chaotic situation has been going on for many months. Apparently the responsibility for organising all Co-op car parks is managed centrally by the Co-op, who use a company called Excel Parking (I think) for all their car parks. Branch managers have no involvement and no power to deal with problems. The manager of the Marple store has reported the matter many times but nothing has been done. Meanwhile, he knows they are losing business. No wonder the Co-op's in a mess.......... ::)
That is why we need an alternative supermarket and I won't mention that name that was stopped from coming to marple .by councillors and Mia ,
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Why would you want them removed? Contact the organisers after the event but give them a chance to publisise a great event.
Bit late with this Duke they were removed months ago by councill it's called fly posting .
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Bit late with this Duke they were removed months ago by councill it's called fly posting .
Well, the next time someone loses their cat, they'll know that telegraph poles are sacred and mustn't be touched.
I think publicising an excellent event is great and after the event is over, ask the organisors to take them down. Such a shame the community is full of NIMBYs rather than encouraging enterprise.