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Title: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on February 03, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
Its within the town centre too and would breathe life into that end of stockport rd.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Howard on February 03, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
Is it for sale or are you just being mischievous?
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on February 04, 2014, 07:40:04 AM
Merchant shuts in march.
Staff being made redundant.
Contracting side going to operate from another unit.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: amazon on February 04, 2014, 10:13:30 AM
Is it for sale or are you just being mischievous?

Sory  but where's duddys yard .
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: the rover on February 04, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Traffic would be at a standstill, it is bad enough now on Stockport Road. A good place for a supermarket would be on Hibbert Lane!
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: the rover on February 04, 2014, 10:30:41 AM
Sory  but where's duddys yard .
It is located just below the Post Office on the other side of Stockport Road, the entrance is next to the cake shop, opposite the second hand furniture shop.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: admin on February 04, 2014, 11:38:25 AM
Sory  but where's duddys yard .

It's the arrow shaped plot in the middle of this shot. Could the Post Office sorting office be relocated there?

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Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: wheels on February 04, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Difficult access. Difficult highways issues.

Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: amazon on February 04, 2014, 01:41:51 PM
It's the arrow shaped plot in the middle of this shot. Could the Post Office sorting office be relocated there?

Thanks my brains now Working .
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: red666bear on February 04, 2014, 03:13:48 PM
It's the arrow shaped plot in the middle of this shot. Could the Post Office sorting office be relocated there?

I shall repeat myself again. The sorting office is not being relocated. We have a 99 year lease on the site.
Kirkland developments can obtain as many planning permissions as they wish and the council will not stump up the 2 million pounds to relocate us as they cannot justify the expense to the electorate in these times of austerity.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: wheels on February 04, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
It's the arrow shaped plot in the middle of this shot. Could the Post Office sorting office be relocated there?

I shall repeat myself again. The sorting office is not being relocated. We have a 99 year lease on the site.
Kirkland developments can obtain as many planning permissions as they wish and the council will not stump up the 2 million pounds to relocate us as they cannot justify the expense to the electorate in these times of austerity.


Pity really its such a dreadful building.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Dave on February 04, 2014, 04:26:57 PM
I'm not surprised either, for the same reasons as Henrietta.  But it's not a good place for a supermarket, for all the reasons given above. 

As for this:
the council will not stump up the 2 million pounds to relocate [the sorting office] as they cannot justify the expense to the electorate

£2 million! Why £2 million?  Neither the Duddy's site nor the construction costs would be anything like that level of expense. 
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: wheels on February 04, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
I'm not surprised either, for the same reasons as Henrietta.  But it's not a good place for a supermarket, for all the reasons given above. 

As for this:
£2 million! Why £2 million?  Neither the Duddy's site nor the construction costs would be anything like that level of expense. 

I think this refers to buying out the lease for the existing Royal Mail site
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Dave on February 04, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
But surely that is only a 'worst case scenario' in which the Royal Mail is completely unreasonable and refuses to accept any other location, however suitable it may be.   

Stockport Council owns plenty of land - they certainly wouldn't need to buy the Duddy's site - and no doubt they have several sites which could be suitable for a new sorting office.  Sensible negotiation between the Council and Royal Mail should produce a mutually acceptable solution, surely. 
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: marpleexile on February 04, 2014, 07:35:24 PM
Sensible negotiation between the Council and Royal Mail should produce a mutually acceptable solution, surely. 

Good one Dave. Tell us another.

The Council have behaved far from sensibly over this wider issue so far, to expect any different now is wishful thinking.

Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: marpleexile on February 04, 2014, 07:44:54 PM
Difficult access. Difficult highways issues.



Depends, surely, on exactly what is for sale. Assuming the store front comes with the yard, then there would be room for a modest Express type store, with room left over for more parking than the average one has.

If there is (relatively speaking) plenty of parking space, then I can't see there being a highways issue. Being located between two sets of traffic lights would give natural breaks in the traffic for people to enter and exit the car park without causing major issues (Yates' garage doesn't ever cause a traffic snarl up with cars constantly entering or leaving the forecourt).
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on February 04, 2014, 09:42:57 PM
The yard is same size of land aldi are building on in offerton.

Morrisons express just opened in hazel grove on a6.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: simonesaffron on February 05, 2014, 08:00:07 AM
Good one Dave. Tell us another.

The Council have behaved far from sensibly over this wider issue so far, to expect any different now is wishful thinking.




In what way have the Council 'behaved far from sensibly?'


Don't you think that there might be a little variation about what the Council actually wanted to achieve with the Planning Consent for Trinity/Chadwick street and what they really want to do with the site itself.

On a topical note I notice that Chadwick Street has appeared as a 'late item' on tonight's agenda for the Area Committee.     
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: admin on February 05, 2014, 09:20:02 AM
....the council will not stump up the 2 million pounds to relocate us as they cannot justify the expense to the electorate in these times of austerity.

Quite rightly too. How does the Royal Mail justify the £2M price tag to relocate them?
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Belly on February 05, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Quite rightly too. How does the Royal Mail justify the £2M price tag to relocate them?

Because they can ransom the Council?
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: red666bear on February 05, 2014, 06:58:40 PM
Quite rightly too. How does the Royal Mail justify the £2M price tag to relocate them?
2 million pounds is nothing.
Mount pleasant site in London is being sold with Boris Johnson's approval to developers for 870 million.
Kerching for our shares.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: admin on February 05, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
2 million pounds is nothing.
Mount pleasant site in London is being sold with Boris Johnson's approval to developers for 870 million.
Kerching for our shares.

Chadwick Street is not in London. I was hoping that you would explain why it would cost £2M to relocate the PO in Marple. How has that figure been arrived at? Give us a breakdown.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: hollins on April 10, 2014, 10:27:45 AM
Merchant shuts in march.
Staff being made redundant.
Contracting side going to operate from another unit.

Is this still the case? It's April, the gate is wide open and there is plenty of activity in the yard. At least, we still get our regular morning education in the finer points of the English vernacular from the contractors loading their trucks.
Title: S Duddy is not closing.
Post by: ringi on April 23, 2014, 02:56:42 PM
I went into S Duddy today and while spending some money asked them when they were closing.   

I was told that there are no plans to close and that a new manager has been brought in that is building the stock levels up.   

(Apparently the last manager decided for some reason they were closing and mislead a lot of people before moving on to a new job.   I got the feeling that they would not turn down a very good offer for the land without first considering it.)
Title: Re: S Duddy is not closing.
Post by: Dave on April 23, 2014, 03:35:47 PM
I went into S Duddy today and while spending some money asked them when they were closing...... I was told that there are no plans to close

Could well be true, but let's not forget that businesses which are selling up always tend to say that the business will continue, so that they have the option of selling it as a going concern. 
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on April 23, 2014, 08:38:01 PM
The old manager sure did mislead people,
the two staff who were being made redundant were working their notices.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Hynes57 on June 25, 2014, 06:42:13 AM
I think bluezorro should find out facts before he writes his assumptions.
Just a thought!
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: corium on June 25, 2014, 10:13:24 AM
I think bluezorro should find out facts before he writes his assumptions.
Just a thought!

So what are the facts/ assumptions? Remembering that as 2 months has gone the situation may have changed from the original post.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Duke Fame on June 25, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
2 million pounds is nothing.
Mount pleasant site in London is being sold with Boris Johnson's approval to developers for 870 million.
Kerching for our shares.



Hurrah for privatisation
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on June 27, 2014, 01:27:00 AM
hynes57

staff working notice, premises for contracting side found and a lot of stock sold??

facts sure are straight.

ask any roofer in marple

old manager came back to re-establish the merchant business.
My son in-law tells me most of the roofers now use the builders merchants at rosehill.
Title: Re: Duddys yard, right size for a tesco express or similar??
Post by: Bluezorro on June 27, 2014, 01:35:04 AM
sorry meant in my original and last post the facts were correct.

they then changed their minds about closing.

there was no misleading information given out by the owners.