Tesco / ASDA !!!

[Miss Marple]

Dave ! The college was in talks with supermarkets well before they applied to the learning skills council !  Dont believe me ?  Then ask Cllr Alexander she was a governor at that time and also look at CAMSfC Min's for 2006 / 2008    I know its hard but if you want to comment Dave you really need to keep up to speed because its MIA that's confused that your knowledge around this debate is somewhat limited    Even the YPLA are aware that even before CAMSFC lost their bid for monies to LSC our wonderful CAMSFC had already paid large amounts of monies on consultancy fees and borrowing LARGE sums of monies to pay for their services    By heck Dave do you just come on here to wind me up ? 

[Dave]

Actually this is not really scaremongering you are correct. It is worse than that.

Yes, it is much worse, because it totally misrepresents the situation.  Anyone reading that model letter would think that a new Asda is to be built which could cause a school to close ('For your huge company to destroy a school').  That is the reverse of the truth, which is that a college is selling off some land which could cause an Asda to be built!  It's bizarre.     And needless to say, if anyone sends that letter to Asda they will be completely mystified! 

[HWL1973]

What's scaremongering about that ?

Actually this is not really scaremongering you are correct. It is worse than that.

I read that your company is planning to buy Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College, demolish it and build a supermarket.....I am both shocked and amazed. The shock is from learning that we now live in a country that closes schools to open supermarkets. My amazement is that a company such as yours... would ever dream about becoming involved in such a sad and shameful story..... you may well choose to persist in the plan to destroy an institute of education and build yet another of your stores......For your huge company to destroy a school...  you will be marked forever as the man who destroys places of education to pursue yet another pound of profit.

[Miss Marple]

What's scaremongering about that ?

[HWL1973]

I was interested to read the latest MIA newsletter on the on the 'Latest News' thread: http://www.marple-in-action.org.uk/MIAnewsletterDec2011.pdf

It provides a useful update on the issues surrounding camsfc's  proposals to improve their facilities. It is, for the most part, balanced and reasonable, but then there is a suggestion that readers might write to Asda telling them that they are not welcome, and at this point things go seriously amiss!     

As we all know, the college is planning to sell off one of its sites, with its poor-quality buildings which were designed for a different purpose and are expensive to run, and use the proceeds to replace those buildings on its other site.   

So we good people of Marple are invited by MIA to write to ASDA as follows: ' I read that your company is planning to buy Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College, demolish it and build a supermarket.....I am both shocked and amazed. The shock is from learning that we now live in a country that closes schools to open supermarkets. My amazement is that a company such as yours... would ever dream about becoming involved in such a sad and shameful story..... you may well choose to persist in the plan to destroy an institute of education and build yet another of your stores......For your huge company to destroy a school...  you will be marked forever as the man who destroys places of education to pursue yet another pound of profit.'That is such a bizarre distortion of the truth that no-one could possibly take it seriously.   It isn't a school - it hasn't been a school for many years.  The 'school' is not being demolished - one set of buildings is to be replaced by others which will be better.  The 'school' is not going to be 'closed'.  The 'institute of education' is not going to be 'destroyed'.  And so on. 

I am no supporter of MIA, but I accept that there is a perfectly good case to be made against building a supermarket on Hibbert Lane.  But honestly, if you guys want to be taken seriously, you really do need to show a bit more respect for truth and accuracy.   

I'm confused now as we have been continually told that Marple in Action do not do scaremongering and only deal with the facts 

[Miss Marple]

I would just like to say a huge  thank you to everyone who visited the stall on Saturday wanting information and offering assistance.  As you may already be aware no planning application has as yet been submitted but one is expected around April / May which is nearly a year since the information about the sale was leaked out of the college.      MIA are still awaiting assurances from the YPLA that there will be no loss in curriculum or facility if Hibbert Lane Campus was to close.  No loss of curriculum is a requirement of the YPLA before they can agree any sale.  Sadly it would appear that they are in breech of there own procedures so a complaint has been sent to DOE  for an investigation and an explanation on how an agreement to sell the land has been given by the YPLA without the correct procedures being adhered too.  
There is also work being done around the land being returned back to surviving  family due to the land if sold no longer being used for the reason it was bequeathed.  
Once again MIA would like to thank you all  for your continued support  

[Dave]

I was interested to read the latest MIA newsletter on the on the 'Latest News' thread: http://www.marple-in-action.org.uk/MIAnewsletterDec2011.pdf

It provides a useful update on the issues surrounding camsfc's  proposals to improve their facilities. It is, for the most part, balanced and reasonable, but then there is a suggestion that readers might write to Asda telling them that they are not welcome, and at this point things go seriously amiss!     

As we all know, the college is planning to sell off one of its sites, with its poor-quality buildings which were designed for a different purpose and are expensive to run, and use the proceeds to replace those buildings on its other site.   

So we good people of Marple are invited by MIA to write to ASDA as follows: ' I read that your company is planning to buy Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College, demolish it and build a supermarket.....I am both shocked and amazed. The shock is from learning that we now live in a country that closes schools to open supermarkets. My amazement is that a company such as yours... would ever dream about becoming involved in such a sad and shameful story..... you may well choose to persist in the plan to destroy an institute of education and build yet another of your stores......For your huge company to destroy a school...  you will be marked forever as the man who destroys places of education to pursue yet another pound of profit.'

That is such a bizarre distortion of the truth that no-one could possibly take it seriously.   It isn't a school - it hasn't been a school for many years.  The 'school' is not being demolished - one set of buildings is to be replaced by others which will be better.  The 'school' is not going to be 'closed'.  The 'institute of education' is not going to be 'destroyed'.  And so on. 

I am no supporter of MIA, but I accept that there is a perfectly good case to be made against building a supermarket on Hibbert Lane.  But honestly, if you guys want to be taken seriously, you really do need to show a bit more respect for truth and accuracy.   

[Catwoman]

Anyone watch the BBC programme about supermarkets this week?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16027733

and a couple of recent articles about Tesco developing into new sales areas

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/districtnews/9333642.Beauty_salon_cuts_a_dash_with_shoppers/
 
http://www.is4profit.com/small-business-news/20111104-tesco-beauty-expansion-threatens-small-shops.html

[Miss Marple]

I have faith in both Karl and Peter so I will leave it to the latter to do what's right  .  

1000th  post !  Message to self  ' get a life '

[HWL1973]

No it's because they have always been in Marple !  Believe it or not we have far less Coop owned buildings than when I was young because then  Marple was the Coop

Hi Miss Marple <waves>

Maybe for your 1000th post you could say whether you agree with the co-op displaying an MIA poster or not.

[Miss Marple]

No it's because they have always been in Marple !  Believe it or not we have far less Coop owned buildings than when I was young because then  Marple was the Coop

[HWL1973]

Does anyone else find it distasteful that one of Marple's several co-ops is currently displaying a Marple in Action 'NO' poster in its window?

Huh? what other coops are there?

There's the big one, the little one (the old Somerfield / Texaco garage - where the poster is) and 2 pharmacies off the top of my head.

Marple is truly a co-op town. But apparently that's OK because they are not big, evil Tesco or big, American Asda.

[alison]

Does anyone else find it distasteful that one of Marple's several co-ops is currently displaying a Marple in Action 'NO' poster in its window?

Huh? what other coops are there?

[amazon]

Yes and give us a real supermarket.

             Went in yesterday sat mid morning .lot of the frozen food fridges empty as was quite a lot of other shelves . this is why we need another supermarket .i know its nearly Christmas .but its like this most of the time .big gaps on shelves .

[TINSLEY]

Yes and give us a real supermarket.