Tesco / ASDA !!!

[Victor M]

removing much needed general parking in the local centre,

I am lead to believe that there will be no loss of car parking spaces on the Chadwick St site. The supermarket will be cut into the site (which is on a slope and the car park will continue onto the roof of new building. Before anyone jumps to conclusions, it will be a single storey building.
As to

to a far from 'quality' supermarket

don't be worried Harry Walmart have already stated that they are not interested in the site. We will not know which supermarket it is until after the application receives planning permission, as the developer will only then go and see which supermarket is prepared to bid the highest.

[Harry]

I've heard that the Chadwick St. site is going to be awarded to a far from 'quality' supermarket. I sincerely hope that this is incorrect, but I fear it may be.

This should be far more worrying to our local shops than an Asda would be.

[amazon]

We are all speculating here as if we have an influence on whether Asda comes to town or not when of course we don't. What difference does it make whether they sell fish or not?

The scheme that Asda are proposing is becoming increasingly difficult to resist as each day goes by, as of course it was bound to be. There is even a suggestion that some of the local Councillors are now finding the proposal attractive. SMBC have no weapon to resist other than to say ..."It's not in the town centre"...That's absolutely all they've got together with some flimsies connected to traffic which might or might not happen. Remember it is not just about building an Asda it is also about saving and regenerating a College at least that is the way it is being presented. When Paul Lawrence said a year ago that Asda would not get planning permission, the "enabling" application was not on the horizon...well now it is. Ask him now and see how his resolve against it is.  Don't be surprised if SMBC grant permission at the first go and don't be surprised if they don't, that the Highways & Planning Committee do. If both of them don't then the Inspectors surely will in the current planning climate.   

Maybe we should be asking our Councillors to unite and get what they can for Marple out of Asda whilst the going is good instead of keep pressurising half of them to tell lies and the other half to stay silent just to cover their own political hides.   

Get asda to upgrade the swimming baths .

[Belly]

I am very disturbed by the e-mail you recieved in the name of Marple in action. MIA have kept out of the Chadwick St issue. The mission was originally to prevent a supermarket on Hibbert Lane. Now people are being directed to the Stockport . Gov website regarding Chadwick St as an alternative. Are some, or a member saying it is acceptable to disrupt the residents of Chadwick St and surrounding roads? Just like the homes around the proposed Asda site, The homes on Chadwick St will also be affected by a supermarket in front of their homes, falling property prices, increased traffic and the general disruption that a supermarket brings. stockport Council are selling the Chadwick St site, it is within the district centre and there is sadly, very little we can do about it. I think we have a headless chicken running amok!

I'm not sure why MIA have not entered the debate re: Chadwick Street. I would be interested in their views, as for me, its potentially a worse site for a food-store than Hibbert Lane. Served by cramped streets with no visibility at junctions, removing much needed general parking in the local centre, very close to residential properties and right on the door-step of all our 'specialist' shops, therefore providing immediate competition. If it has been sold to a 'qauilty' supermarket brand it could be really bad news......

I've always been worried that the 'say no to Hibbert Lane' might precipitate a knee jerk reaction from the Council to push Chadwick Street forward. Given that the Council are going / have sold the site with food retail as an option, they can hardly then fight any subsequent application. Does this mean out of the frying pan, into the fire for Marple?

[sooty2]

I am very disturbed by the e-mail you recieved in the name of Marple in action. MIA have kept out of the Chadwick St issue. The mission was originally to prevent a supermarket on Hibbert Lane. Now people are being directed to the Stockport . Gov website regarding Chadwick St as an alternative. Are some, or a member saying it is acceptable to disrupt the residents of Chadwick St and surrounding roads? Just like the homes around the proposed Asda site, The homes on Chadwick St will also be affected by a supermarket in front of their homes, falling property prices, increased traffic and the general disruption that a supermarket brings. stockport Council are selling the Chadwick St site, it is within the district centre and there is sadly, very little we can do about it. I think we have a headless chicken running amok!

[Osdog]

Yes I'm on the MIA mailing list.. and in the first instance I was totally anti-supermarket.  After a while though I thought that they would not be able to build on the whole of the college site - I did state in a post somewhere on this site a long time ago, that of the whole site, they could only build on half of it, and of that half, they could only build on roughly half of that - so as to allow for parking and access.  The rest of the land as rightly pointed out is for community use.  What ASDA now propose is nothing different to what it would have been at the outset.

I suppose at this point we have no reason to doubt ASDA when they say there will not be a deli, or fish counter etc..... but I'm sure they will still sell meats, and fish - but probably pre-prepared. I'm even a little bit sad there won't be a cafe - to maybe compete with Costa !!!!

I still see no reason that the food festival could not continue - maybe in a slightly different format, but still go ahead. 

In the end analysis there's no point in grumbling along, protest if you will, (and I did) but in the same breath, if ASDA do open in Marple, I suspect I will be sneaking along there to do my weekly shop.

Yes I'm lazy - yes I want things in the same place - and yes I want a quality product.  I'm sure that in most cases a supermarket would be more than adequate.

I'm equally sure that Marple will not become a ghost town with tumbleweed blowing along Market Street - it hasn't in Whaley, why should it here?

[marpleexile]

Every single independent shop in Whaley Bridge closed of course when Tesco move in.

Except they didn't did they? Whaley has far less vacant units than Marple.

Indeed. The same goes for Glossop - whilst not every unit is occupied, it's far from being a ghost town.

This is pretty much what I predicted would happen. MIA built the hype up so much, that pretty much any proposal from ASDA was going to look reasonable compared to the MIA worst case scenarios.

[HWL1973]

Every single independent shop in Whaley Bridge closed of course when Tesco move in.

Except they didn't did they? Whaley has far less vacant units than Marple.

[simonesaffron]

We are all speculating here as if we have an influence on whether Asda comes to town or not when of course we don't. What difference does it make whether they sell fish or not?

The scheme that Asda are proposing is becoming increasingly difficult to resist as each day goes by, as of course it was bound to be. There is even a suggestion that some of the local Councillors are now finding the proposal attractive. SMBC have no weapon to resist other than to say ..."It's not in the town centre"...That's absolutely all they've got together with some flimsies connected to traffic which might or might not happen. Remember it is not just about building an Asda it is also about saving and regenerating a College at least that is the way it is being presented. When Paul Lawrence said a year ago that Asda would not get planning permission, the "enabling" application was not on the horizon...well now it is. Ask him now and see how his resolve against it is.  Don't be surprised if SMBC grant permission at the first go and don't be surprised if they don't, that the Highways & Planning Committee do. If both of them don't then the Inspectors surely will in the current planning climate.   

Maybe we should be asking our Councillors to unite and get what they can for Marple out of Asda whilst the going is good instead of keep pressurising half of them to tell lies and the other half to stay silent just to cover their own political hides.   

[Victor M]

I was trying to point out that just because they don't have a deli counter etc it doesn't stop Walmart from selling that produce and thereby affecting the local stores, and there is nothing stopping them putting in a cafe etc once they have planning permission. I wish people would read postings correctly!!!!!!!

[jethroh65]

Asda in Stockport doesn't have a Deli or Meat Counter, but they still sell meat & Deli!!!!!!!

[Victor M]

Tina,
What is to stop ASDA putting in a Cafe, Deli, Fish & Meat counter after they have planning permission? Or are you reading the Walmart spin as theywon't sell, meat, deli and fish anywhere in the store?

[tina]

Tina,
To run a food festival you need lots of local shops, if the shops aren't there are you proposing we will have a Walmart food festival. NO THANKS

The local shops will still be there, if you read the web page you will see they are not going to include: 
( quote from hollins) : The new Asda will not have a cafe, nor  a meat, fish or deli counter, as there is already good provision in the Town Centre.

So I dont see why we cant continue to have the food festival

[Victor M]

Tina,
To run a food festival you need lots of local shops, if the shops aren't there are you proposing we will have a Walmart food festival. NO THANKS

[tina]

The website isn't just the video there is also questions answered in the mythbuster section...  It answers the main questions what people have been worried about... Eg Will the houses on church Lane be demolished for Road improvements the answer is NO  they go on to explain their answer... The email you got Osdog was it from MIA? you must be on their mailing list.
The food festival will be a success for many years Asda should not make any difference