KELLYS NIGHTCLUB

Night of the living dead does not stop at Hibbert Lane. Yes people have a right to own their own business and I do hope that Kellys makes a substantial profit, but what we are talking about in here is the unessesary crime and disorder caused by these venues.

I live on Church Lane and it is turned into Night of the Living dead every Friday/Saturday night. The drunk set on the ritual crusade that is the walk home from their chosen place of watering. In groups they are worse, alone they can be funny.

The point I wish to make is that we are talking about a minority of revellers and not everyone who would choose to boogey down at Kelly's. So it would be harsh to point the finger at an establishment because it offers recreational facilities to the community, when only a percentage of its patrons are the alleged offenders.

It is clear there is a problem, the correct way to address any damage by calling the police and reporting incidents. They have the intelligence to deal with ongoing problems.

[Marplian]

You can't keep bad mouthing the police because there is only a small number covering the whole of Stockport.....And Marple is hardly the roughest area around! However, i do agree that many people don't see Marple as 'posh' anymore, which is a result of the 'scally' population causing ongoing problems. I worked at the co-op until last June when me, 2 collegues and my family were 'jumped' at closing time. The police helped us right through to the end and we got justice! It was the management at the co-op that didn't care (but thats another story! ) It's a shame that these careless people have to ruin it for the others, but i just think it's a matter which will never be controlled (unless kellys is closed down of course)

i have found this after having a good search on the forum, 2004 was the last post on here, did anyone ever go to the meetings or make any complaints?
There is a new thread on this subject, and what has been mentioned on there is pretty much the same on here.
I think a meeting should be held and all the residents what are fed up of the noise, damage etc.. need to turn up and voice their concerns.  '>

[alan@marple]

Reading the various postings. prompts me to suggest that readers might like to take a look at the community councils webpage. There is a leader article about crime and disorder.

Perhaps residents might like to support the Marple community council by attending the meeting this week

Here's a  direct link to the MCC site http://www.marpleccexec.org.uk/
Admin

Fortunately I dont live on the main route to and from the Goyt Mill. I have no reason to doubt the descriptions of disturbances that have taken place. I feel desparately sorry for those people whose quality of life is disturbed by these incidents.

I do have to agree that Kelly's cannot be responsible for the conduct of people outside of their premises and I entertain no doubt that they exercise stringent rules and common sense with regards to who they allow into the premises, I feel sure that they must also excercise strict control on keeping within the law as far as under age drinking and use of substances on their property is concerned Am I correct in assuming that they employ fully trained and licenced door staff and enjoy a good working relationship with the police. . I feel sure that they are not motivated purely by profit but by a desire to provide leisure and recreational facilitites to the community. I also think that if there was any contavention of fire regulations, overcowding etc. Surely they must have courtesy notices displayed reminding their patrons to consider the local residents when making their way home. I am sure that Kelly's will abide by every clause and restriction that is contained within their lease of the premises and that no infringement of planning consent is evident.

Perhaps in fairness to " Mr Kelly" he should be invited to make a statement to the community either byLocal newspaper or this website, would the administrator consider forwarding this topic to him and or the press.

Or do the residents want to club together and take recourse to Law, through the licencing magistrates.

Every opportunity should be given to Mr Kelly to demonstrate his committment to the well being of the community, why ? because   he stands accused and has not been given the chance to respond....should he so desire

Id just like to reply to some of the comments made since my last post.
As regards there being replies from only 3 residents that can only be put down to not too many using or being aware of this forum,there are many elderly residents around the vacinity of the mill and if there like my old man theyd struggle to get here.Last night friday/sat morning was one of the noisiest ever,Id also like to know as mentioned earlier when and where there might be some residents meeting.
As for flash well,enough said.

Some good points made by Tricky.

Flash is obvously not flash enough, a poorly thought out paragraph by somebody who sounds like they are one drunkerds waking people up and generally being a nuisance,  if not you certainly make yourself seem like a suporter of them at least.

[Theotherside]

well said!

[Tricky]

Thanks Flash

I think we can all sleep better now then.

Because, I thought that as my car was damaged at 2.30 in the morning by drunken louts dancing on top of it that it was a problem that I shouldn't have to put up with.

Now you've explained to me that they're doing less harm than if they were on the streets.. Oh hang on.. that's where your comment breaks down.
Think Flash. When they're inside the club that's fine.. it's when they're out on the streets walking home etc.

I'm not a  prude Flash and I don't curl up with a book by the fireplace on a Friday night, I like a drink etc. like a lot of people, but, I do have respect for other people and their property.
These 'teenagers' obviously can't control themselves after drinking until the early hours..

While these so called "teenagers" a majority i'm sure are middle aged are in kellys nightclub, is it not true that they are doing a lot less harm than they would be hanging about the streets?,  also i'm sure it's only a small minority actually causing trouble outside and damaging residents property and this happens from drinkers at nearby pubs. this is the society we now live in and in any small, medium, large town you are going to experience this sort of behaviour. Not everyone enjoys a glass of wine and a good book in front of the fire on a friday night!

Flash

Kelly's get its licence because it clearly meets it legal requirements and cannot be held responsible for the actions of its punters outside.

I wonder if other residents of Hibbert Lane are having these severe problems as this board only has entries from 3 residents.

Maybe you should attend the up and coming public meeting.

Hibbert Lane resident sick and tired every Friday and Saturday of the lanuage  I admit i swear but i would not do it loudly down the street I walk down that street after the pub after having a few beers and i do not feel the need to swear loudly I cannot understand how Kelly's keep getting a licence and all I can say is anybody going in the restaurant is supporting him.

Whens something going to be done,its a disgrace..!!!!
A local petition might get the police doing something.

[johnhoughton77]

It is unfortunate to read about a member of the community moving because of anti-social behaviour,  I do wonder whether this reason will be declared on the SPIF and ultimately wonder if it has an adverse affect on the sellers property value.  Let's be honest,  who really wants to buy or rent a property when and if they get the truth.

I do wish you good luck,  but I wonder if relocation is the answer.

[2002standardmat]

Unfortunately I've heard all this before and am sick of reporting it to the police - they need to clean up the town centre of drunken abusive teenagers more than anything - I agree with everything on this thread.

And don't even get me started on the politicians (especially the MP) and some of the responses I have had off the police.

The problem is not a particular nightclub etc, they will get wasted and cause trouble where ever they go - it is endemic across the town.

Still, we have decided we have had enough and are moving out of Marple - sick of hearing my voice fall on deaf ears.