Greater Manchester Police and Crime Commisioner Elections

[wheels]

Exactly!  We agree for once, wheels 

Oh dear I better rethink my line

[Dave]

Exactly!  We agree for once, wheels 

[wheels]

So given that all answers are always in this sort of election going to be broadly the same leaving the elector unable to distinguish between candidates what is the point of the election. The Police Authority was doing a perfectly good job at a fraction of the cost. Yet another ridicules Tory idea with a 13% turnour what mandate does this person have in any event.

[amazon]

Now it seems to me Dave that I have gone out and sought the answers to questions which I consider to be impotant in these election and based on my knowledge of each of the parties have reached a decision. Have a I done something wrong in your eyes.

Of course not - what an odd thing to suggest! 

Regarding the candidates' responses to wheels' question, they confirm what I pointed out, which is that all the candidates will say they are committed to reducing accidents - it's like asking them whether they believe in 'motherhood and apple pie' - you would hardly expect them to say they don't!  As for the specific issue of '20's plenty', that is something for local authorities, not the police, whose job is to enforce laws, not to make them. 

The way petrols  going up they won't be many cars on the road shortly .

[amazon]

But you haven't gone  out and asked why very few people were informed who the candidates were have you

[amazon]

Dave we are not discussing here how I voted, why do you want to know in any event.

A lot of people will have been lucky if they knew who to vote for. With the lack of information
And so called leaflets that a lot of people don't seem to have had .

I don't see why it needs to be made an issue it's a shambles .

[Dave]

Because I don't believe for a moment that only one political party would want to reduce pedestrian and cycling accidents, and I'm amazed that anyone would believe such a thing!

[wheels]

Dave we are not discussing here how I voted, why do you want to know in any event.

[Dave]

Let me expand on that Dave with an example 56% of all deaths in road traffic accidents in Greater Manchester are of pedestrians or cyclists, that's the highest in the country and clearly needs addressing. I believe addressing it can only come from one parties political philosophy,

And which party is that? 

[wheels]

Let me expand on that Dave with an example 56% of all deaths in road traffic accidents in Greater Manchester are of pedestrians or cyclists, that's the highest in the country and clearly needs addressing. I believe addressing it can only come from one parties political philosophy, thus I would vote for that philosophy.

[wheels]

But Dave I don't think the statements matter, at least not to me, I will vote for the candidate who political party philosophy I agree with that's whats important not statements put out at election time.

[Dave]

OK wheels, have a look at the statements of the political candidates here: http://www.policeelections.com/candidates/greater-manchester/

...and find me a single sentence which distinguishes any one of them from the others on the basis of political principle.  Not counting the Labour guy, whose political principle appears to be 'can't be bothered'   

[wheels]

Because a political figure bring an underlying philosophy to the role be they Liberal, Socialist or whatever. Some principles to tie them to their decisionmaking process. A non political does not have that anchor and might potentially drift about with the popular prevailing mood of the public.

Popularism is not a good basis for decision making.

[Dave]

Why?

[wheels]

Better a political candidate than some independent.