Appeal Time Limits

[simonesaffron]

The point I am making is that SMBC didn't run round trying to find some way of stopping the Hibbert lane development once they had been approached by CAMSFC Consultant's, they already had plans, on the back burner, to develop Chadwick St. They (SMBC) warned CAMSFC representatives this at their first meeting, this idea that the Chadwick St. development is just a spoiling tactic is wrong. If this was not the case ASDA would have appealed against the decision, there are not many instances where ASDA don't go to appeal, this shows the professionalism of SMBC's planning dept.

Of course they "run round" their intention was to stop the Hibbert Lane, Supermarket. The Trinity Street site was rushed through all processes; Area Committee, Executive, Marketing, Planning. What often takes years was executed in months. Their was a multiplicity of uses that the Trinity St site could have been used for in SMBC'S development plan. If my recall is correct they varied from housing to a nightclub casino. There was a lot of bidding interest in the Trinity Street site and they weren't all proposing Supermarkets. Do you think that it was just a coincidence that SMBC decided to award to a developer who allegedly is building a supermarket,  a Supermarket virtually the same size as the Hibbert Lane Asda and at exactly the same time ?

If they wanted a Supermarket on that site why didn't they build one years ago.

Are you actually saying that if ASDA hadn't appeared on Hibbert Lane that there would have been a Supermarket on Trinity Street anyway ?
If you are then I have to disagree.
         

[Victor M]

I am not sure of the point that you try to make.

The point I am making is that SMBC didn't run round trying to find some way of stopping the Hibbert lane development once they had been approached by CAMSFC Consultant's, they already had plans, on the back burner, to develop Chadwick St. They (SMBC) warned CAMSFC representatives this at their first meeting, this idea that the Chadwick St. development is just a spoiling tactic is wrong. If this was not the case ASDA would have appealed against the decision, there are not many instances where ASDA don't go to appeal, this shows the professionalism of SMBC's planning dept.

[simonesaffron]

One of the first pieces of info that was obtained by a Freedom of Information request was an mail from SMBC to CAMSFC's consultants which stated that land was available (Chadwick St) for a new Supermarket. The plan to develop Chadwick St. had been around for a lot longer than people think and certainly before ASDA was interested in the Hibbert Lane Site.

Victor, We've had this conversation before more than once.

Being available is one thing, there is land all over Stockport that is "available" and has been "available" for years what matters is if and when that availability is processed and the "process" for "Trinity Street" was only kicked in when the CAMSF/SUPERMARKET scheme introduced itself. Before that there was a declaration with no intent on the part of the council.

I am not sure of the point that you try to make. All I am saying is that ASDA are leaving town because of the planning application for Trinity Street.     

[NeilCorrie]

One of the first pieces of info that was obtained by a Freedom of Information request was an mail from SMBC to CAMSFC's consultants which stated that land was available (Chadwick St) for a new Supermarket. The plan to develop Chadwick St. had been around for a lot longer than people think and certainly before ASDA was interested in the Hibbert Lane Site.

Yes.  Full text of the 08-Jul-2011 email is at http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=4617.msg26502. 

"Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, we cannot agree that the Chadwick St car park site is not a “sequentially preferable” site. Basically, local and national policy says that sites for development should be in the most sustainable locations and therefore there is always a sequencing to the release of sites. Whilst we acknowledge that the Chadwick St site is less commercially attractive, we remain of the view that it is deliverable and therefore sequentially available. This undermines the Hibbert Lane site very significantly indeed."

[Victor M]

It has been said many times before but there is absolutely no doubt that Trinity Street was a scheme devised by local Councillors with one purpose in mind and that was to prevent ASDA/CAMSFC gaining planning permission for Hibbert Lane.

One of the first pieces of info that was obtained by a Freedom of Information request was an mail from SMBC to CAMSFC's consultants which stated that land was available (Chadwick St) for a new Supermarket. The plan to develop Chadwick St. had been around for a lot longer than people think and certainly before ASDA was interested in the Hibbert Lane Site.

[simonesaffron]

Amazon,

Now this I understand without translation.

Maybe you should move to Glossop.

[amazon]

I've tweaked your grammar/punctuation a little to make it clearer to read.

The small site where the Cherry Tree pub once stood, in Romiley is indeed under development. 

Full plans at http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=110200.  8 new houses and 6 new flats, as pictured below.

Unsure what point you were making though.  Wonderful that so many affordable houses, perhaps using a shared equity approach, have been made available despite the small site?  And you're hoping that plenty can be provided on the Cheadle+Marple plot soon ?

Why do some think they have to be so perfect on this site.just come back from Glossop,they now have a tesco
Aldi coop markspencers heron frozen foods. High  street is busy the odd one empty .and all marple wants is houses .charity shops Cafes ..and a great do it yourself store
Get a life Marple .

[sgk]

Have you seen the small site at Cherry Tree, Romiley, where the pub was.  Not the school site that's for Alzheimer's  Look how many affordable houses they've crammed on that site.  Look forward to the Ridge Development.

I've tweaked your grammar/punctuation a little to make it clearer to read.

The small site where the Cherry Tree pub once stood, in Romiley is indeed under development. 

Full plans at http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=110200.  8 new houses and 6 new flats, as pictured below.

Unsure what point you were making though.  Wonderful that so many affordable houses, perhaps using a shared equity approach, have been made available despite the small site?  And you're hoping that plenty can be provided on the Cheadle+Marple plot soon ?

[Dave]

The deadline for making an application was 4 months ago?

Yes, for schemes where the funds need to be made available within the 2013-14 financial year.  But given the lead time needed for a new scheme to be designed and a new planning application to be submitted, they wouldn't need the funds until 2014-15 at the earliest.  And these pots of capital funding generally roll forward to from one year to the next, though the amount of money in them can often change, of course. 

[amazon]

I am not exactly sure that I am translating your post correctly, but I actually think, that that development is a big improvement on that big, horrible, scruffy pub that was there and it has the added bonus of providing provides homes for people. Perhaps Amazon you don't want people to have homes as long as you've got a supermarket.

Not saying its not a improvement just stating how cram ed up they are .which seems to be the norm .

[simonesaffron]

The deadline for making an application was 4 months ago?

There is no reason why they shouldn't have put their application in, in advance. Just in case the ASDA scheme didn't work out. Though I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Bowden Guy]

The deadline for making an application was 4 months ago?

[Dave]

The College can use the money to carry out a less grand refurbishment but nevertheless a refurbishment. So it could generally be a good thing all around.

Actually I understand from other sources (not the college) that thanks to recent developments in government capital funding for sixth-form colleges, the improvements at camsfc may not necessarily have to be 'less grand' after all, even if the revenue from the sale of the Hibbert Lane site is only a modest 4 million.  See http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/adminandfinance/schoolscapital/a00217642/bcif-2013-2014.

If the 4 million can be topped up by BCIF funds, the new Buxton Lane development may yet be worth having. 

[sooty2]

look forward to the ridge  development .

Who and for what reason?

[sooty2]

Have you seen the small site at cherry tree romiley were the pub was not the school site that's for Alzheimer's  look how many a fordable  houses they've cramend on that site .look forward to the ridge  development .

Could you please use some simple punctuation? I am sure I am not alone having to guess what you are trying to say. There is a spell checker on this forum. Why not use it? Simone is not sure if she is translating your post correctly.Why should we need to do this? Forgive me if English is not your first language.